The Image field Thumbnails bloating the site!

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12 years 7 months ago #39373 by boniaditya
The image field used to upload images. Is creating three versions of every image uploaded along with saving the originals in a "original" folder!
l_Image - The large version
m_Image - The medium version
s_Image - The smaller version
b_Image - I guess for the category view - thumbnail

This is making the site really bulky - the site is growing up really fast. I would like to know if there is a setting where we can force flexicontent not to create those thumbnails. Given that i don't use them.I take pains to reduce the file size of the image to less than 100KB but these three files actually make that attempt futile.
Could you include a version where i can fetch the image from a remote host - with a url - or multiple urls - (if the first url breaks the second is used - a feature request) like to take pictures from google + or flickr - that would make the site lite and save tons of bandwidth!

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12 years 7 months ago #39376 by ggppdk
Hello,

1. usually the original image file may take 10 times more space than all thumbnails put together ...
e.g. you could set the thumb size for unused thumbnails to something small

2. but individual parameters to allow not to creating some thumbnail size make sense

and you will be ok as long as you don't try to use them somewhere (e.g. universal content module)

also these should be easy to add

this will be added with default value being to create,
also it is possible to remove existing thumbnails while checking thumbnails exist/have correct size


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12 years 7 months ago #39377 by boniaditya
Your assumption that the original image is ten times the size of all the thumbnails combined is not always right - For example
Original_Image - 30KB
b_Image - 1.4KB
l_Image - 32KB
m_Image - 24KB
s_Image - 5KB

that is around 50KB for an image of 30KB - I have uploaded a thumbnail!
If the image is in MB then what you say might hold true but i am trying to upload thumbnails and this is what is happening! and why can't i host the images in flick and give the link!

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12 years 7 months ago #39378 by ggppdk
Hello

about the original image i said it is "usually", not "always", much larger than thumbnails,

-- also you can make you thumbnails take up very little space by setting in them to very small dimensions, you say that you do not use them

-- about hosting in other sites, surely we can examine this, just the amount of work done on image / gallery field last year is really a lot, so you cannot say that development on image/gallery field is not progressing on it, in fact it compares to individual extensions , while having the bonus of being closely integrated with the related content

and a particular feature maybe important for an individual site,

we always focus on features that we miss and features that we have available

what is priority for developers of FLEXIcontent is making a living(about FC we plan to sell support subscriptions and maybe other, (FC will remain free))

also priorities are:
- performance (we did a lot of work here)
- cleaning up interface (we did a lot of work here)
- cleaning up code and unifying it (we did a lot of work)
- j3.x support (mostly done)
- adding commonly used features

less commonly used can only be done with paid work, or they will wait for an unspecified time

Regards


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12 years 7 months ago #39379 by boniaditya
I am looking for a work around. I think i understood your version-
You say that you can reduce the size by putting in very small values for the sizes - can i put 0 x 0 ?
OR 1px by 1px would also suffice!

P.S. Yes I agree, there are tons of other optimizations that are of greater priority than remote images and I think the effort you put in is in par with the best PHOTO GALLERY extensions on the JED phocoa gallery, zoom gallery, sig plus, Core Design Web Gallery, Admiror Gallery to name a few!

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12 years 7 months ago #39380 by boniaditya
Thank you for the help
I did the following steps
First i deleted all the existing medium thumbnails
I tried 0px by 0px in the settings for medium- it just took a copy of the original image.
Then i deleted the medium thumbs again and repeated the experiment this time
I tried 1px by 1px in the settings
The medium thumbs were of very low size less than 700 Bytes all of them!

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7 years 10 months ago #73772 by kspoddar
Hi,
I am facing the problem too. My client requires photos to be uploaded on an average of 600 per week. This really adds to the website becoming bloating every day. Is there a way that one could not have the original images saved?
Also, when I reduced the thumbnail quality to 70, the thumbnail picture file sizes did not reduce substantially.
Lastly, how do I ensure that once the item is deleted, all images of that item will automatically be deleted?

Thanks

Cheers!
Kirti

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7 years 10 months ago #73773 by micker
yes if you keep original !
check params on global config you have an option for rezize original to save disk space

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7 years 10 months ago #73777 by ggppdk
Hello

micker means that
- at component configuration
- and at the image field too

you can configure auto-resize of the original images too
thus you can reduce the size of the original images at the time the user uploads them


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7 years 10 months ago #73785 by kspoddar
Thanks, George.
However, if I set the resize option to very small in the original, then all the image thumbnails (small, medium and large)  take the size of the original images during viewing. Example, if set the resize option as 50 x 50 then the display uses the same image from the original folders. So, if the medium image dimension is 400 x 400 then it will take the 50x50 image and display it at 400 x 400 dimensions and this results in it being pixelated. See here  101.53.130.49/newsite/glam/item/10-test-4.html

At the same time the various thumbnails are created - backend, small, medium and large. In other words, this does not reduce the size of the files in reality.

Also, when I trash an item, it does not delete the image fields automatically. This again will keep increasing the website size. Hope this explains.

Cheers!
Kirti

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